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Getting More Out of Your Maui System.

Previously, I wrote a blog on What AMD offers the HTPC customer. It covered the MSI Media Live Diva platform (MSI 7411), which is produced in accordance with the AMD HTPC motherboard specification that we affectionately call “Maui.” I discussed the audio and video capabilities of the platform and some of the features that make it a little more unique in the HTPC space.

Today, I would like to offer a little more insight to this platform and show you just how much this platform can be customized. AMD, D2Audio and MSI worked hard to deliver a unique solution to the market. However, the work did not stop just because the platform was released. We have continued to innovate on this platform and we are quickly approaching the next phase of this solution.

One of the unique properties of the D2Audio designed chip is that it is programmable. Therefore, the firmware (f/w) of the audio cards can be updated to add new features and functionality. In some respects, this is similar to how a motherboard BIOS can be updated to add new CPU support or additional functionality.  With respect to the D2Audio chip, it can be customized to overcome the weakness of a given speaker, customized frequency response curves, customized crossover frequencies, etc. 

Well, D2Audio has taken the next step and is bringing some of this programmability to life to help enable our System Integrator partners to take full advantage of many features of the D2Audio DAE-3 chip. At the time of this posting, it has yet to be determined how to make some of these things available to the DIY user, but it is under discussion.  What I am hoping you take away from this blog is just how powerful and robust this unique platform is and how much it can be customized to meet a user’s needs.

In this particular case, words won’t quite do it justice so I am including some screen shots of a D2Audio tool called Audio CanvasTM.  Audio CanvasTM is an application that has the “buttons and knobs” that control the programmability features of the D2Audio chip. 

Now, enough talk; let’s take a deeper look inside the “Maui” platform’s audio features enabled by Audio CanvasTM.  Below is a view of the Audio CanvasTM control panel. It represents the signal flow of audio though the DAE-3 chip and the control blocks that can be optimized.  (Click on images to enlarge)

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Audio Canvas Control Panel

As you can see from the picture above, with the control panel there are tonal adjustments, 5 band parametric EQ, Matrix Switcher, High Pass and Low Pass crossover filters, Channel Router, Master Volume, Loudness, Compressor and individual channel volume. It should be noted that many of the controls you see here are available on each channel independently.  Therefore, you can adjust each audio output (Left, Right, Center, etc.) independently of the others. All of this happens in real time; no need to recompile- make a change and you hear it immediately from the speakers (assuming you have content playing back as you make adjustments). Here is a closer view of some of these controls.

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The images above show the tonal control response curve (left) and the 5 band parametric EQ response curve (right).  On the Tonal control panel, there are 4 knobs used to control the frequency response and gain (volume) for the bass and treble frequencies.  Rotating the knobs will change the frequency response and graph below the knobs. On the parametric EQ graph, there are 5 bands that can be adjusted for both gain (center green dot) and bandwidth (pair of green dots).  Furthermore, the EQ has a summation effect where the bands can be added to increase the gain by setting the centering point on each band to the same frequency.  This would allow you to boost the bass response in one channel, for example, or filter out a bad frequency that might be distorting.  You could also use these controls in conjunction with your speaker’s response curves (contact your speaker manufacturer) to optimize the audio outputs to your speakers.  Likewise, if you have a mixed set of speakers (for example, different surround sound speakers from your main left and right), you could adjust the audio outputs on a per speaker basis. Response curves shown are not necessarily recommended settings but purely an example to show some range of control available.

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In the image above, you see how to set High Pass and Low Pass crossover filters. The panel provides control for the type of filter, in this case a Butterworth Filter, but there are Bessel and Linkwitz-Riley filter options as well. There are also settings for both the slope and the cut off frequency. The shaded blue area represents the frequencies being filtered out.  By using both a low and high pass crossover filter it is possible to create a band pass filter if so desired.

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  The image above shows how the router can be used to remap the channel outputs.  This is useful if you wanted to do a multi-zone environment where instead of 5.1 speakers in one room, you might have 3.1 in one room and 2 more speakers in another room. 

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Above is the Compressor/Limiter.  This is useful when you have content that was encoded at different volume and/or gain settings.  With the compressor, you can set a threshold and then automatically increase or decrease gain based upon the threshold setting and the ratio.  Factors such as the attack and release are used to determine how fast it should ramp and release the gain.

Lastly, there are three different points in the control panel (next to the EQ buttons, LP buttons, and independent volume buttons) where you can open up a VU/Level meter to monitor the signal level at each point to ensure that you have the appropriate headroom as you make adjustments.

As you can see, the Audio CanvasTM application is more of a tool for engineers, system integrators and/or audio enthusiast and not something for the everyday user.  However, what this represents is just how much control an individual can exert over their audio environment when using the MSI platform with the D2Audio chip on board.  Furthermore, this new firmware enables the hooks necessary for programmers to develop their own user interface to control the audio experience.  As mentioned in the earlier blog, the audio characteristics offered on this platform are certainly impressive on their own- combine such performance with such programmability and you have the makings of a very unique solution indeed.  It is just another one of those things that set this platform apart from other HTPC solutions on the market.

Till next time, Happy Trails!

Jay TaylorJay Taylor is a Senior Developer Relations Engineer at AMD. His postings are his own opinions and may not represent AMD’s positions, strategies or opinions. Links to third party sites are provided for convenience and unless explicitly stated, AMD is not responsible for the contents of such linked sites and no endorsement is implied.

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  1. #1 by William Hurlston - June 16th, 2009 at 19:42

    I think a lot of people who were skeptical will start to take notice now. Great blog Jay!

  2. #2 by Joseph - June 17th, 2009 at 00:58

    Interesting. How do I access this from Linux?

    • #3 by Jay Taylor - June 17th, 2009 at 15:03

      @Joseph, Hello Joseph,

      The current challege with a Linux solution is getting proper driver support for the audio. As I understand it, this platform will only work in 2channel audio mode in linux because there is no ALSA driver support for this platform to enable more than 2 channels right now.

      Once we can move beyond 2 ch. of audio in Linux, we could try to figure out how to enable the Linux community to take advantage of the D2Audio APIs to enable more functionality.

      • #4 by Joseph - June 17th, 2009 at 15:23

        @Jay Taylor,
        You mean that the current driver for the amd maui platform only does 2 channels? ALSA/Linux can do >2 channels.

        Are the docs for accessing this hardware out yet? Where can we get our grubby mitts on it? :)

        Thanks!

        • #5 by Jay Taylor - June 18th, 2009 at 11:23

          @Joseph,

          Joseph, is there an email address that you can be reached at? I might be able to help you with your request.

  3. #6 by wpeltola - June 17th, 2009 at 09:04

    Great blog post Jay! Looks pretty exciting :)
    - Bill

  4. #7 by michel - June 18th, 2009 at 01:42

    Hi,

    Great post. I was wondering if it is possible to configure a audio output stream over the HDMI and spreaker channels the same time ?

    Michel

    • #8 by Jay Taylor - June 18th, 2009 at 11:20

      @michel, To my knowledge, that would be limited by the OS.

      As far as I know, the OS will only allow one active playback path (codec) at one time.

  5. #9 by Surya - June 19th, 2009 at 03:21

    Is AMD will support Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD MA in their upcoming digital audio controller in AMD future southbridges on the platform?

    • #10 by Jay Taylor - June 19th, 2009 at 10:04

      @Surya, Hello Surya, I cannot comment on future product features/capabilities.

      However, the audio referenced in this blog is not actually part of our southbridge. The audio is a separate chip from D2Audio that was integrated into the motherboard. The D2Audio chip does have the processing capabilities to handle the higher bit rates required for Dolby TrueHD and DTS-MA. However, s/w players currently downsample content.

      As such, there are currently discussions underway on this topic with some of our s/w partners to see if there is a solution to enable those types of playback options on this platform.

  6. #11 by Bill - June 23rd, 2009 at 12:57

    Wow great stuff! PLEASE give us end users that app AND an API!!

    Some things I would love to see on a DAE3 5.1 board firmware update as a current Live Diva user:

    1) Native equalizer (no way to do this currently on Windows Vista, but from the screenshots above it looks like all of that may be on its way via the app)
    2) Native bass management (Windows Vista refuses to set bass management and push a signal to the subwoofer from a stereo feed if your left/right speakers are set to full range–that’s an OS issue but it would be great if D2Audio can work around this)
    3) Eliminate the subwoofer “three thumps” problem on resume from sleep!
    4) TrueHD support w/Arcsoft if it isn’t already there (TMT3 fooled me into thinking it was?)

    I love my 5.1 board–not a hint of hiss from my speakers.

  7. #12 by mauiuser - June 28th, 2009 at 16:27

    Where can I download the Audio Canvas app and how do I update the DAE3 firmware?

    • #13 by Jay Taylor - June 29th, 2009 at 13:04

      @mauiuser, The new f/w update is nearing the final stages of testing/validation at D2Audio and should be ready soon. Once completed and released from D2Audio, there will be a tool provided at the same time for prorgramming the amplifier card with the new f/w.

      As for the canvas applicaiton…D2Audio is trying to determine the best way to make this available to the community. There are a couple of methods being looked at now.

      Once the puzzle pieces are ready, I will be sure to post back here on how customers can take advantage of these new features.

  8. #14 by disappointed - July 3rd, 2009 at 01:59

    i just built an HTPC using this platform mainly because of this review. it’s the 5.1 amp build w AMD X2 5050e, 1 WD SATA drive and 1 LG BD.

    Everything looks ok except that the audio is very weak. I have cranked up vista volume up to 100 (max) but the audio from my lenovo laptop seems louder.

    I am thinking it could because i’m using a 380 watts PSU? i don’t know if lack of PSU wattage can affect the volume capcity of the Amp card. If somebody can confirm that i will upgrade my PSU or i will try plugging in the amp card into a dedicated 280watts PSU from an old PC.

    btw i am using JBL SCS 145.5 5.1 speakers.

    • #15 by Jay Taylor - July 6th, 2009 at 09:22

      @disappointed, Hello,

      Even a 380W PSU should be fine. If audio is low, sounds like there may be a bad connection or something missing during the set up. Audio should be plenty loud when maxed out. You might try posting your question on one of the forums I mention in the support blog.

      http://links.amd.com/Support

      Regards,
      Jay

  9. #16 by Hutch - July 3rd, 2009 at 20:52

    Hey Jack,
    I am so happy to see you blogging about the Maui platform and enhanced features.

    I have decided to rethink/redesign/relaunch allhtpc.com

    It is currently in the design process, so stay tuned!

    • #17 by Jay Taylor - July 6th, 2009 at 09:23

      @Hutch, Great, looking forward to seeing it.

  10. #18 by Ninfendo - July 6th, 2009 at 02:28

    Hi,

    I have had an active speaker setup since 2005 using my PC as crossover and for digital room correction. I like where the evolution of the Maui is heading, but it does have a lot of catching up to do. Will it be possible to run FIR filters on indovidual channels in the future?

    Here is a good thread for serious PC Audio enthusiasts: http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=63078

    Thanks,
    Fredrik

    • #19 by Jay Taylor - July 6th, 2009 at 11:30

      @Ninfendo, I can’t really comment on what D2Audio is going to implement or support on their future chips. Currently the filter technology used on the current chips are IIR due to cost/complexity required. However, as you can see from the blog, these still provide excellent performance and control over the freq. response. Not bad given that the motherboard/amp card are available for under $200.

  11. #20 by Michael - August 14th, 2009 at 05:09

    Hi,

    When is this software/firmware going to be released? Looking over the D2Audio website they have all kind of nice software applications like sound studio and listening environment optimizers etcetera while I still have only a batch file to activate the 5.1 amplifier and (for me) no sufficient control over the audio settings. And as one of the repliers said, in some cases the volume is low and needs to be maxed out to have a normal volume. I understand that this will probably relies on the source material but it would be nice to have more control over the amplifier.

    Thanks,

    Michael

    • #21 by Jay Taylor - August 17th, 2009 at 09:30

      @Michael, D2Audio is trying to finish it off now, so hopefully very soon. Unfortunately, they have a lot of priority projects taking place at once and limited resources to get everything done.

      Stay tuned.

      • #22 by michel - August 25th, 2009 at 01:20

        @Jay Taylor, Jay,
        Will this new F/W make it possible to get audio output to both HDMI and the AMP5.1 channels the same time? And I f no what is the best way to do a feature request ?
        Michel Kamp

        • #23 by Jay Taylor - August 25th, 2009 at 10:13

          @michel

          Hello Michel,

          No, the f/w has no way to enable that functionality. Unfortunately, that is a limitation of the operating system and not a function of the f/w.

          I am not aware of any method to enable multiple audio output paths silmultaneously at this point in time. I know that there have been many people that would like to have that functionality, I am just not aware of any solution for that today.

          I know there was talk a while back about Jriver offering that type of functionality, but I have not seen much on it.

          There might be a way to do this in Linux, but that would inherently create other challenges.

          So as of right now, I don’t think you will be able to do this.

          Regards,
          Jay

  12. #24 by michel - August 31st, 2009 at 13:17

    Hi,

    if updated the FW , but where can I download the Audio Canvas software ??

    Michel

    • #25 by Jay Taylor - August 31st, 2009 at 15:43

      @michel, Hello Michel,

      The f/w you downloaded is not the same version I discussed in this blog. The f/w mentioned in this blog is not yet released to the public. I think you downloaded an earlier version which adds about 6dB to the output but it does not have the hooks that allow more control over the audio properties.

      That f/w will be coming as soon as D2Audio completes the tweaks and testing.

  13. #26 by Michael - September 4th, 2009 at 07:41

    Hi Jay,

    Do you happen to know in what way this software will or could be published? Currently I am checking the D2Audio website, MSI website and most of the time avsforum.com to see if something gets leaked in any way like the 6dB enhancement. I also wonder what kind of software we can expect because it seems that they have a lot of different tools and would understand that these tools would not be published for free. I have no clue what to expect. Some are speaking of a new firmware, but firmware doesn’t sound as something which will include software for better control over the amplifier. I hope you can shed some light over these questions and thank you in advance!

    Best Regards,

    Michael

  14. #27 by rirad - October 20th, 2009 at 15:57

    I am very interested in this HTPC platform but the main reason I have not considered a purchase is that I have not been able to find any linux support.
    Could you provide some information whether linux drivers are being developed and if so what time frame these drivers will be released?

  15. #28 by B.T. - November 5th, 2009 at 07:33

    Hello,

    I am from good old germany and have a HTPC with the Diva in it. Are there any new information about a driver for the DAE? I using my HTPC for blurays and other high definition material.
    Hope there will be an answer…

    My HTPC: Lian Li Msi Diva Amd x2 4850+ F2 Eco green HDD Bluray Drive Terratec TV Card Logitech Bluetooth Keyboard + Mouse Win7

    Sorry for the broken english!

  16. #29 by Space - November 5th, 2009 at 17:28

    I can’t wait to get a chance at the new firmware / software as My Diva is working ok but would love to sort out 5 channel ac3 playback as just dosen’t seem to output correctly.

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