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AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition 3.4GHz Socket AM3 140W Quad-Core Series: Phenom II X4 Virtualization Technology Support: Yes L2 Cache: 4 x 512KB L3 Cache: 6MB Manufacturing Tech: 45 nm 64 bit Support: Yes Hyper Transports: 4000MHz $249.00

IS THE 2 MB L3 CACHE RILE WORTH $750.99 OR AM I MISSING SUM THING!!!!

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AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition 3.4GHz Socket AM3 140W Quad-Core Series: Phenom II X4 Virtualization Technology Support: Yes L2 Cache: 4 x 512KB L3 Cache: 6MB Manufacturing Tech: 45 nm 64 bit Support: Yes Hyper Transports: 4000MHz $249.00

IS THE 2 MB L3 CACHE RILE WORTH $750.99 OR AM I MISSING SUM THING!!!!

AMD IS THE ONLY WAY TO GO

Oh really…….Intel is better than AMD? are you sure about that? Based from my experience as a computer user for 15 years intel has not produced a suitable and robust product for the consumers… Take for example Intel’s low end CELERON processors, if you compare with AMD’s SEMPRON, you could clearly see that the SEMPRON out performs the CELERON in every bench marks, and the CELERON runs very hot compared to the SEMPRON!……..

Same is true with the current models……

conclusions:

AMD just makes a more robust products, and INTEL you just wait because AMD will unleash a bombshell on you,, just wait!

Wurd.

I just finished up building an ATI/AMD platform around the same by co-worker did with Nvidia/Intel

he paid $850 more than me (we both ordered from the same site) and my HD4890 Xfire rig rounds out about 5000 more marks in 3DMark06
than his tripple SLI

*note* I did warn him in advance

Take Care and God Bless!

Ohh…. really!!

Bang for buck you say!!!!!

Try buying the i7 965, with a price tag of over a 1000$ And ask yourself, is it really worth it?

Frankly speaking NO It is not worth it…. paying for a 1000$ dollar processor that only performs slightly better than the phenom II (which is about 250-300$) is not a very wise and logical decision. Humans are logical beings aren’t we……. so use that logic to use, think before you move.

GOD BLESS US ALL!

In game there must be rules, rules that should control or govern the game, and basing from that rules,officials declares the winner. What intel has done to the game is that intel disregarded the rules, which is mainly wrong and making their own rules which by simply is unacceptable! The only thing here is that AMD wants a fair and clean competition!…. Its competition that makes the prices decline and features go up on their respective products……. If you love intel that much go buy their i7’s for all I care!…….As for me I’m sticking with AMD based products because I know that they deliver the performance, reliability, and stability that I need or should I say WE ALL NEED!

God Bless To All Of US!

http://arstechnica.com/hardware/news/2009/06/intel-rebrands-again-meet-core-i3-and-core-i7.ars?utm_source=microblogging&utm_medium=arstch&utm_term=Main%20Account&utm_campaign=microblogging

Interesting…….

There is something that I have never understood in this Intel v AMD fued. Since AMD has a better product than Intel, why doesn’t AMD advertise to the mainstream public? If it did, then consumers would demand that their computers have AMD products, and retailers would not be as enticed by Intel to agree to illegal conditional agreements. In a free market, retailers will sell what their consumers want. Am I missing something?

You can under-price your product and take a loss. It’s questionable, but companies get away with it all the time.

You can work out quantity discounts, sure.

Offering a specific deal on pricing depending on whether or not someone sells a competitor’s product or tie it to the number of models available? That’s way over the line.

I understand the Kerrigan comparison is a bit heavy-handed, but that doesn’t dilute in any way Intel’s horrendously anti-competitive actions.

The fact that going to dell.com or ibm.com and can’t find directly comparable AMD/Intel systems is just wrong. While you may say “blame the OEM’s,” it’s been made clear that it’s Intel’s might rather than any individual company’s exercising their prerogative.

I’ll just keep building my own machines.

They also desperately try to “prove” AMD is not any better than Intel:

http://www.brightsideofnews.com/news/2009/5/27/amd-and-anti-competitive-practices.aspx

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-intel-cpu,7837.html

Good explanation. I’m sad to say that as an avid AMD customer, I was unaware of this situation. I build my own rigs and use nothing but AMD chips. I’ll soon be building a Phenom II.

I’m happy to hear that Intel has been set back. I truly hope that AMD can gain a position of parity in the global CPU market. I’m sick of living in a world of sacred cows thinking they somehow have a right to rip off consumers or competitors.
I’m very pleased to see some good chips once again coming out of AMD. I personally threw in the towel. I knew you’d be back!

LONG LIVE AMD!!! LOL

Also, you are ABSOLUTELY right about AMD’s sticking it out being the reason we have the chips we do at current prices. Most people in our world today are too … obtuse to see the truth in your claim.

Planet X is coming. I must hurry and build my new rig!

Best wishes to you, AND AMD! /cheer

I tried to make a few of them here: http://blogs.amd.com/patmoorhead/2009/04/29/amd-40-years-of-just-doing-it/

and here: http://blogs.amd.com/patmoorhead/tag/innovation/

A well thought out argument, and I agree with all of your points… but an observation.

In a world where every other computing solution looks like another in the mainstream, this forces AMD to be several things:
1. Truly innovative… AMD LIVE! is an example. Fusion is an example. Leading Intel by introducing solutions that solve consumer problems by taking a platform approach to performance and changing the game is the way AMD continue to wiggle away at Intel’s marketshare.
2. Agility… You and I both know that AMD can be incredibly capable at adapting to new market challenges if it can avoid pitfalls and snares. Intel’s unfair practices have been one of those snares that created a daunting challenge, but the fact that AMD is still here, still creating amazing products negates all of the manufacturing arguments. Investors are still here with a long term belief that AMD can prevail.
3. Will and Passion… In my mind, this is AMD’s core strength, an unswerving faith that AMD is relevant, capable and the best CPU solution on the planet. AMD’s ability to bring key partnerships along side its planning and marketing activities will continue to be a thorn in Intel’s side, as well as AMD’s dogged will to survive against overwhelming competition.

My congratulations to AMD for this win, and I look forward to many more!

Daniel R.

If anything more intelligently written hits the inter-webs all day I will be surprised. Well thought out.

Oddly enough, the William Golding reference makes allot of sense. Some giant international companies look at it as if they are stranded on their own island, with massive influence and power, and they eventually loose their way.

About 10 years ago me and a friend were discussing a book that was written by a former Intel CEO or quoted by a former Intel CEO.

I was wondering if I you know of this book/reference. For the longest time I have wanted to read it.

The title or subtitle in this section of your blog is, well very relevant.
“A guide to playing under the Radar” or “Playing under the Radar”

Anyhow if you know this reference I would appreciate a reply.

Thank you!