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		<title>Comment on AMD Opteron Processor &#8211; Delivering True Value, Not Just Benchmarks by John Fruehe</title>
		<link>http://blogs.amd.com/work/2009/10/09/amd-opteron-processor-delivering-true-value-not-just-benchmarks/comment-page-1/#comment-325</link>
		<dc:creator>John Fruehe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 15:00:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In what way?</description>
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		<title>Comment on AMD Opteron Processor &#8211; Delivering True Value, Not Just Benchmarks by Casey</title>
		<link>http://blogs.amd.com/work/2009/10/09/amd-opteron-processor-delivering-true-value-not-just-benchmarks/comment-page-1/#comment-324</link>
		<dc:creator>Casey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 01:25:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To be honest, I&#039;m pretty disappointed in the AMD Opteron Processor. It wasn&#039;t at all what I thought it would be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To be honest, I&#8217;m pretty disappointed in the AMD Opteron Processor. It wasn&#8217;t at all what I thought it would be.</p>
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		<title>Comment on AMD Opteron Processors Scale the Alps by Joshua Mora</title>
		<link>http://blogs.amd.com/work/2009/09/23/amd-opteron-processors-scale-the-alps/comment-page-1/#comment-319</link>
		<dc:creator>Joshua Mora</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 04:59:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>quad core and six core issues 4 flops/clk/core
multithreaded and single threaded DGEMM and SGEMM efficiencies are in the 90%. HPL (~DGEMM) in the 85% within node, 80% in cluster.
Based on comments from John, 141TF is peak at 2.4GHz Shanghai. So real TFLOP double precission should be in the 80%, ie. 113TF.
When upgraded to six core, say at 2.6GHz (eg. at same power consumption per processor), you should be able to get 6/4  * 2.6/2.4 increase , ie. 1.625 (62% increase), which is 221 TF peak, and 211 TF peak if using 2.4GHz, with similar efficiencies ~170TF real at 2.4GHz six core.
Not bad for an upgrade of processors.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>quad core and six core issues 4 flops/clk/core<br />
multithreaded and single threaded DGEMM and SGEMM efficiencies are in the 90%. HPL (~DGEMM) in the 85% within node, 80% in cluster.<br />
Based on comments from John, 141TF is peak at 2.4GHz Shanghai. So real TFLOP double precission should be in the 80%, ie. 113TF.<br />
When upgraded to six core, say at 2.6GHz (eg. at same power consumption per processor), you should be able to get 6/4  * 2.6/2.4 increase , ie. 1.625 (62% increase), which is 221 TF peak, and 211 TF peak if using 2.4GHz, with similar efficiencies ~170TF real at 2.4GHz six core.<br />
Not bad for an upgrade of processors.</p>
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		<title>Comment on AMD Opteron Processor &#8211; Delivering True Value, Not Just Benchmarks by Gustavo Reyes</title>
		<link>http://blogs.amd.com/work/2009/10/09/amd-opteron-processor-delivering-true-value-not-just-benchmarks/comment-page-1/#comment-318</link>
		<dc:creator>Gustavo Reyes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 15:01:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this is a test from Application eng team</description>
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		<title>Comment on AMD Opteron Processor &#8211; Delivering True Value, Not Just Benchmarks by Casey</title>
		<link>http://blogs.amd.com/work/2009/10/09/amd-opteron-processor-delivering-true-value-not-just-benchmarks/comment-page-1/#comment-317</link>
		<dc:creator>Casey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 00:23:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I totally agree that the workload, power consumption, and cost is most important in the world of sockets. You couldn&#039;t be more right. I&#039;m so excited to see AMD&#039;s success with this in the future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I totally agree that the workload, power consumption, and cost is most important in the world of sockets. You couldn&#8217;t be more right. I&#8217;m so excited to see AMD&#8217;s success with this in the future.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Fab 2 in Malta, NY is now official by Jake Whitman</title>
		<link>http://blogs.amd.com/work/2009/07/24/fab-2-in-malta-ny-is-now-official/comment-page-1/#comment-312</link>
		<dc:creator>Jake Whitman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 15:59:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can view job openings with Global Foundries here: https://www.globalfoundries.com/careers-adp.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can view job openings with Global Foundries here: <a href="https://www.globalfoundries.com/careers-adp." rel="nofollow">https://www.globalfoundries.com/careers-adp.</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Fab 2 in Malta, NY is now official by Burt Peck</title>
		<link>http://blogs.amd.com/work/2009/07/24/fab-2-in-malta-ny-is-now-official/comment-page-1/#comment-311</link>
		<dc:creator>Burt Peck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 12:00:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How soon will job listing be available?</description>
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		<title>Comment on AMD Opteron Processors + AMD Chipsets = the Whole is Greater than the Sum of the Parts by John Fruehe</title>
		<link>http://blogs.amd.com/work/2009/09/20/amd-opteron-processors-amd-chipsets-the-whole-is-greater-than-the-sum-of-the-parts/comment-page-1/#comment-310</link>
		<dc:creator>John Fruehe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 00:57:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, that is what it is, but it is designed for client systems, not server systems.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, that is what it is, but it is designed for client systems, not server systems.</p>
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		<title>Comment on AMD Opteron Processors Scale the Alps by John Fruehe</title>
		<link>http://blogs.amd.com/work/2009/09/23/amd-opteron-processors-scale-the-alps/comment-page-1/#comment-309</link>
		<dc:creator>John Fruehe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 00:56:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, the liquid cooling that is used happens outside of the chassis.  It is a raised floor data center.  Cool air comes from under the floor, is forced up through the rack to cool the systems.  When it gets to the top it chilled with cold water. The system is designed around removing the ambient heat inside the system.

Liquid cooling in desktops happens inside of the chassis and is usually directly connected to the processor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, the liquid cooling that is used happens outside of the chassis.  It is a raised floor data center.  Cool air comes from under the floor, is forced up through the rack to cool the systems.  When it gets to the top it chilled with cold water. The system is designed around removing the ambient heat inside the system.</p>
<p>Liquid cooling in desktops happens inside of the chassis and is usually directly connected to the processor.</p>
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		<title>Comment on AMD Opteron Processors + AMD Chipsets = the Whole is Greater than the Sum of the Parts by SocketMan</title>
		<link>http://blogs.amd.com/work/2009/09/20/amd-opteron-processors-amd-chipsets-the-whole-is-greater-than-the-sum-of-the-parts/comment-page-1/#comment-305</link>
		<dc:creator>SocketMan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Oct 2009 23:43:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AMD OverDrive™ Utility Overview:

The AMD OverDrive™ utility provides the ability to maximize the capability, flexibility, and adjustability of the platforms utilizing certain AMD processors, sockets, and chipsets. Hardware parameters may be controlled manually, or allow the AMD OverDrive utility to automatically tune the system. Stability tests can be performed, once a system is modified, to verify the system and conduct a performance test to measure the impact of the modification.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AMD OverDrive™ Utility Overview:</p>
<p>The AMD OverDrive™ utility provides the ability to maximize the capability, flexibility, and adjustability of the platforms utilizing certain AMD processors, sockets, and chipsets. Hardware parameters may be controlled manually, or allow the AMD OverDrive utility to automatically tune the system. Stability tests can be performed, once a system is modified, to verify the system and conduct a performance test to measure the impact of the modification.</p>
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		<title>Comment on AMD Opteron Processors Scale the Alps by james</title>
		<link>http://blogs.amd.com/work/2009/09/23/amd-opteron-processors-scale-the-alps/comment-page-1/#comment-303</link>
		<dc:creator>james</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Oct 2009 11:09:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With reported performance of nearly 10 times that of its predecessor, the new Monte Rosa is liquid cooled, allowing it to fit in the same physical space, helping to optimize the center’s floorspace.
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is the liquid cooling system similar to(although much larger in scope) what&#039;s been on desktops or is it an entirely customized cooling solution?

thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With reported performance of nearly 10 times that of its predecessor, the new Monte Rosa is liquid cooled, allowing it to fit in the same physical space, helping to optimize the center’s floorspace.<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;</p>
<p>is the liquid cooling system similar to(although much larger in scope) what&#8217;s been on desktops or is it an entirely customized cooling solution?</p>
<p>thanks!</p>
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		<title>Comment on AMD Opteron Processors + AMD Chipsets = the Whole is Greater than the Sum of the Parts by John Fruehe</title>
		<link>http://blogs.amd.com/work/2009/09/20/amd-opteron-processors-amd-chipsets-the-whole-is-greater-than-the-sum-of-the-parts/comment-page-1/#comment-299</link>
		<dc:creator>John Fruehe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 00:40:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;ll have to ask SuperMicro about the Crossfire support.  I know that we don&#039;t support AOD, that is a client technology and these are server platforms. Some may use them for workstations, but workstation customers don&#039;t overclock because of the tasks that they are doing require the most stability.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;ll have to ask SuperMicro about the Crossfire support.  I know that we don&#8217;t support AOD, that is a client technology and these are server platforms. Some may use them for workstations, but workstation customers don&#8217;t overclock because of the tasks that they are doing require the most stability.</p>
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		<title>Comment on AMD Opteron Processors Scale the Alps by John Fruehe</title>
		<link>http://blogs.amd.com/work/2009/09/23/amd-opteron-processors-scale-the-alps/comment-page-1/#comment-298</link>
		<dc:creator>John Fruehe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 20:27:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t believe I have that data.</description>
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		<title>Comment on AMD Opteron Processors + AMD Chipsets = the Whole is Greater than the Sum of the Parts by SocketMan</title>
		<link>http://blogs.amd.com/work/2009/09/20/amd-opteron-processors-amd-chipsets-the-whole-is-greater-than-the-sum-of-the-parts/comment-page-1/#comment-297</link>
		<dc:creator>SocketMan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 19:41:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow,another great news indeed!
A couple of questions:
Do (GPU optimized) boards like these:

http://www.supermicro.com/Aplus/motherboard/Opteron2000/SR56x0/H8DA6+.cfm

come with Crossfire and AMD Overdrive (AOD) support ?


Warning!!!
Answering YES may cause severe sales increases :)

Thanks in advance!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow,another great news indeed!<br />
A couple of questions:<br />
Do (GPU optimized) boards like these:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.supermicro.com/Aplus/motherboard/Opteron2000/SR56x0/H8DA6+.cfm" rel="nofollow">http://www.supermicro.com/Aplus/motherboard/Opteron2000/SR56&#215;0/H8DA6+.cfm</a></p>
<p>come with Crossfire and AMD Overdrive (AOD) support ?</p>
<p>Warning!!!<br />
Answering YES may cause severe sales increases <img src='http://blogs.amd.com/work/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Thanks in advance!</p>
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		<title>Comment on AMD Opteron Processors Scale the Alps by Datsun</title>
		<link>http://blogs.amd.com/work/2009/09/23/amd-opteron-processors-scale-the-alps/comment-page-1/#comment-296</link>
		<dc:creator>Datsun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 18:21:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How does it perform in double precision floating point? How many significant performance penalty in percentages compared with single precision?</description>
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		<title>Comment on The Scorecard by John Fruehe</title>
		<link>http://blogs.amd.com/work/2009/09/16/the-scorecard/comment-page-1/#comment-294</link>
		<dc:creator>John Fruehe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 14:12:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The platform will scale to 4 sockets, 48 cores.</description>
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		<title>Comment on The Scorecard by Jim Tuccillo</title>
		<link>http://blogs.amd.com/work/2009/09/16/the-scorecard/comment-page-1/#comment-293</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Tuccillo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 13:07:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Assuming Magny-Cours is available with 12 cores, do you anticipate 8 socket motherboards being available for a 96 core server? Thanks so much. - Jim</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Assuming Magny-Cours is available with 12 cores, do you anticipate 8 socket motherboards being available for a 96 core server? Thanks so much. &#8211; Jim</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Scorecard by barbara</title>
		<link>http://blogs.amd.com/work/2009/09/16/the-scorecard/comment-page-1/#comment-292</link>
		<dc:creator>barbara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 18:24:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is good info!  thanks!</description>
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		<title>Comment on What is an Embedded Platform? by Worldwide movers</title>
		<link>http://blogs.amd.com/work/2009/09/20/what-is-an-embedded-platform/comment-page-1/#comment-291</link>
		<dc:creator>Worldwide movers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 10:13:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hello
Nice thread having such a wonderful information about Embedded Platform, thanks for posting..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hello<br />
Nice thread having such a wonderful information about Embedded Platform, thanks for posting..</p>
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		<title>Comment on Cash for Clunkers by John Fruehe</title>
		<link>http://blogs.amd.com/work/2009/08/18/cash-for-clunkers/comment-page-1/#comment-290</link>
		<dc:creator>John Fruehe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 15:53:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think if you look to Margaret Lewis&#039; virtualization blog ( http://blogs.amd.com/work/category/bloggers/margaret-lewis/ ) you will find out a lot more about moving virtual machines between servers.  Margaret is the resident virtualization guru.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think if you look to Margaret Lewis&#8217; virtualization blog ( <a href="http://blogs.amd.com/work/category/bloggers/margaret-lewis/" rel="nofollow">http://blogs.amd.com/work/category/bloggers/margaret-lewis/</a> ) you will find out a lot more about moving virtual machines between servers.  Margaret is the resident virtualization guru.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Master of My Domain by John Fruehe</title>
		<link>http://blogs.amd.com/work/2009/08/20/master-of-my-domain/comment-page-1/#comment-289</link>
		<dc:creator>John Fruehe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 15:50:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Glad you found it interesting.  Since that time I have added an HP MediaSmart server to the mix; that has allowed me to consolidate some devices and I now have remote access for all of my data anywhere.  Just for fun, I even downloaded a file from my home server to my notebook on an in-flight wifi service.  Access to my data at 30,000 feet was very cool.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glad you found it interesting.  Since that time I have added an HP MediaSmart server to the mix; that has allowed me to consolidate some devices and I now have remote access for all of my data anywhere.  Just for fun, I even downloaded a file from my home server to my notebook on an in-flight wifi service.  Access to my data at 30,000 feet was very cool.</p>
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		<title>Comment on How Low Can You Go? by John Fruehe</title>
		<link>http://blogs.amd.com/work/2009/08/30/how-low-can-you-go/comment-page-1/#comment-288</link>
		<dc:creator>John Fruehe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 15:47:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Slide 2 shows that there are 2 big trends in IT today - the drive towards more performance and scalability and the drive towards better value/lower power.  Our 6-core products handle the first need and our 4 core products handle the second.

On slide 6 we are showing the &quot;% of capability&quot; for our processors vs. our competitor.  As you can see, for them to deliver low power solutions to the market, they have to make some substantial compromises.  Not sure whether these are technical limitations (which would be bad) or whether these are marketing limitations (which would be worse). The key is that the things you would expect to find in an Opteron are virtually the same, regardless of the power band.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Slide 2 shows that there are 2 big trends in IT today &#8211; the drive towards more performance and scalability and the drive towards better value/lower power.  Our 6-core products handle the first need and our 4 core products handle the second.</p>
<p>On slide 6 we are showing the &#8220;% of capability&#8221; for our processors vs. our competitor.  As you can see, for them to deliver low power solutions to the market, they have to make some substantial compromises.  Not sure whether these are technical limitations (which would be bad) or whether these are marketing limitations (which would be worse). The key is that the things you would expect to find in an Opteron are virtually the same, regardless of the power band.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Under the Influence by John Fruehe</title>
		<link>http://blogs.amd.com/work/2009/09/10/under-the-influence/comment-page-1/#comment-287</link>
		<dc:creator>John Fruehe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 15:43:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just wait, the first half of 2010 is going to be a very interesting time.</description>
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		<title>Comment on Quad-Core AMD Opteron™ Processor Codenamed &#8220;Suzuka&#8221; by John Fruehe</title>
		<link>http://blogs.amd.com/work/2009/06/30/quad-core-amd-opteron%e2%84%a2-processor-codenamed-suzuka/comment-page-1/#comment-286</link>
		<dc:creator>John Fruehe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 13:54:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Workstations tend to fall in the middle, but the key for them is the software certification.  Most workstation users focus on a single application. I would check with your applicaiton vendor about what workstations have been certified for that application.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Workstations tend to fall in the middle, but the key for them is the software certification.  Most workstation users focus on a single application. I would check with your applicaiton vendor about what workstations have been certified for that application.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Quad-Core AMD Opteron™ Processor Codenamed &#8220;Suzuka&#8221; by Alex</title>
		<link>http://blogs.amd.com/work/2009/06/30/quad-core-amd-opteron%e2%84%a2-processor-codenamed-suzuka/comment-page-1/#comment-284</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 13:14:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How about for a workstation environment? Would an Opteron or Phenom be more suited?</description>
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