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“Istanbul” – The HPCWire Reader’s Choice
Posted by John Fruehe in 3:39 pm
Loading ...This week, at the SuperComputing 2009 event, AMD received the HPCWire Reader’s Choice Award for our Six Core AMD Opteron™ Processor (the one you know as “Istanbul.”)
When you consider that two of the largest High Performance Computing systems in the world (Oak Ridge’s “Jaguar” and the University of Tennessee’s “Kraken”) were recently and simply upgraded from their quad-core processors to six core processors and got a sizeable boost in performance, to put it mildly, it probably wouldn’t be a shock to hear that we were recognized by the HPC community.
What makes this award great is not that we are being recognized, but the fact that this is a reader’s choice award. When we get a press award, it’s great; but when the readers decide that we deserve recognition, that’s another story.
In the HPC world, flash and advertising won’t cut it. These are the men and women who slave over huge systems, trying to squeeze every ounce of performance out of them. They appreciate performance, but they also really appreciate consistency and simplicity – those help them focus on the task at hand – designing alternative energy sources, predicting weather and climate change, developing the next breakthrough drug, or analyzing crash data to make our transportation systems safer.
Knowing that these folks find our product outstanding means the world to AMD, because we build the AMD Opteron processor for them.
So, Margaret, be sure to bring that award home, we’ll try to clear some room in the trophy case. While we are in there, maybe we need to expand it a bit, because with 12-core processors with 4 channels of memory on the horizon, we might need some extra space.
John Fruehe is the Director of Product Marketing for Server/Workstation products at AMD. His postings are his own opinions and may not represent AMD’s positions, strategies or opinions. Links to third party sites are provided for convenience and unless explicitly stated, AMD is not responsible for the contents of such linked sites and no endorsement is implied.
The Scorecard
Posted by John Fruehe in 9:43 am
(17 votes, average: 4.76 out of 5)There’s an old saying in baseball - “you can’t tell the players without a scorecard.” In this age of always-connected information, that scorecard is the internet. It’s amazing how accurate that information can be. And not be. All at the same time.
I am constantly asked about our different products, both existing and future. Clarification of what the AMD Opteron TM processor products are and where they are targeted is a common request, so I thought it might be a good idea to put it all down in one place; a “cheat sheet” for the IT professional. When it comes to the future products, you might see a lack of details. This is on purpose, as there is some information that we don’t release until we launch the products. (When we discuss the target markets, we are speaking in general terms, because, depending on applications, actual processor choices could vary. That is why we recommend talking to your OEM or system integrator to choose the best solution.)
The Current lineup:
Quad-Core AMD OpteronTM processor (formerly codenamed “Shanghai”) – This is a 45nm quad-core processor with a 6MB level 3 cache. It fits into all of the existing Socket F (1207) systems and is targeted at current workloads like web services, network infrastructure, departmental applications, technical workloads, and those applications that favor clock frequency over thread count. It is productized as the AMD Opteron 2000 Series processors (2P) and AMD Opteron 8000 Series (4P and 8P) processors.
Six-Core AMD OpteronTM processor (formerly codenamed “Istanbul”) – This is also a 45nm design that is based on the same core as the Quad-Core AMD Opteron processor, but the design includes 6 cores, not 4, teamed up with the 6MB L3 cache, and plugs into the Socket F (1207) systems. Because of the higher number of cores (12 cores in a 2P system and 24/48 cores in a 4P/8P system), customers typically use these processors for workloads like cloud computing, virtualization, database and HPC where workloads can be very threaded.
Quad-Core AMD OpteronTM processor (formerly codenamed “Suzuka”) – This is the single socket version of the “Shanghai” die, focused on 1P servers that are typically utilized for web serving, remote locations or running small businesses. You’ll see all of the same features of the “Shanghai” processor, with the exception that it is available only in the standard power band (which is by far the most popular choice for AMD Opteron 1000 Series processors.)
The Future Lineup:
In Q1 2010 we plan to introduce the “Maranello” platform, featuring the processor variant currently codenamed “Magny-Cours.” This is a new socket (G34) and the processor is expected to merge both the top end of the 2P market with the 4P/8P market, all conveniently in a single processor, the AMD Opteron 6000 Series processor. Core choices are expected to be 8 and 12 cores, with massive memory scalability through the 4 channels of DDR-3 memory per processor. By utilizing the same processor for both 2P and 4P designs, the AMD Opteron 6000 Series processor should enable several very interesting and flexible platforms with scalability of 16 cores through 48 cores. Clearly this processor is targeted at virtualization, HPC, database and business applications.
In Q2, we plan to introduce a new platform for web, cloud and infrastructure applications – the “San Marino” platform, featuring the 4-core and 6-core processor variants currently codenamed “Lisbon” in the C32 socket. With low core counts, these processors are expected to be a favored choice for applications that scale well up to 8-12 threads. The platform choices around “San Marino” are expected to help OEMs optimize their C32 systems for low power consumption and low cost. We believe these AMD Opteron 4000 Series processors will have the potential to help users achieve new levels of price/performance and performance/watt. When you walk through a data center and see rack after rack of servers, it’s clear that reducing the cost and power footprint of the “workhorse” servers can have a huge impact on the bottom line. Two channels of DDR-3 memory help provide the right level of scalability for these 1P/2P designs while contributing to low power consumption and cost.
Best of all, while the C32 and G34 sockets are physically different, the chipsets, cores and main BIOS core functions are expected to be common across both of these platforms, helping enable OEMs to develop platforms around AMD offerings, and contributing to easier deployment and management by end users.
The consolidation of 1000/2000/8000 to the 4000/6000 product line is expected to reduce the number of overlapping platforms, increase commonality and flexibility for customers, and reduce the overall SKU count for OEMs – contributing to more flexibility and cleaner scalability from 4 cores to 48 cores. Truly a re-definition of the server market that focuses on how industry partners take products to market and customers deploy instead of how processor manufacturers see the world. Customer-centric innovation.
Power Bands:
Customers have a variety of needs, and it would be foolish to think that one processor can solve all of your processing challenges. So, just as we have different models (1000/2000/8000 today and 4000/6000 in the future) we have different power bands to meet specific power needs.
By far the most popular model is the “standard power” with a 75W ACP (average CPU power), which doesn’t even have a designator. This is “Opteron classic” if you are filling in your score card, the choice for price/performance. In addition to this model, there are 3 specialty power bands:
SE – for those that want relatively higher raw performance. By driving to a 105W ACP, we can increase the clock speed for customers running frequency-dependent applications.
HE – Delivering a lower ACP (55W), the HE processors focus on delivering great price/performance/watt for environments where power may be constrained/more expensive or where density is an issue (like with blades)
EE – This is the specialty processor that delivers absolutely the lowest power consumption of any AMD Opteron processor, with a 40W ACP. Customers, like cloud/web 2.0, look for processors like the EE to help reduce the total power per rack because they are in extremely dense environments.
The “Maranello” platform is expected to support SE, Standard and HE power bands, and the “San Marino” platform is planned to support Standard, HE and EE power bands.
So, there you are, a full lineup of heavy hitters – it should be a great game. With this score card you’ll be able to tell who is at bat and who is on deck, so sit back and enjoy the game.
John Fruehe is the Director of Business Development for Server/Workstation products at AMD. His postings are his own opinions and may not represent AMD’s positions, strategies or opinions. Links to third party sites are provided for convenience and unless explicitly stated, AMD is not responsible for the contents of such linked sites and no endorsement is implied.
Rise of the Big Machines
Posted by John Fruehe in 10:00 am
I remember the first rack-based servers at Compaq. The world was ruled by tower servers. We wanted to introduce racks to the x86 world, but we knew that customers were risk averse. We had this great marketing campaign about “the same servers you know and love, now in rack format.” Brilliant, right?
When we went out to test market the idea with focus groups, they all saw the pictures of a full rack and said “No, these are like mainframes. They are much more powerful than servers – they are supercomputers.” And we actually tried to convince them that these weren’t supercomputers, they were the same servers they were used to buying – we’re talking x86, after all.
Then we realized the smart person should play up the idea of being more powerful, because that is what the customer expects. “x86 Supercomputers” -a phrase that we all joked about back in 1994. Fast forward 15 years and what we see now are x86 supercomputers – and the AMD OpteronTM processor has had a large hand in leading the change.
But no company has explored and delivered on the idea of x86 supercomputing more so than Cray, the company that is synonymous with supercomputers.
If you take a look at recent IDC data on the $3M+ segment of the supercomputer market, what you see is that Cray has the leadership position, with 35% of the market. Their penetration into defense, academia and research is legendary, but Cray is increasingly present in the corporate world as well. With the XT3, XT4 and now XT5 systems, Cray has been able to build highly scalable, highly parallel supercomputers by innovating around industry-standard components like AMD Opteron processors.
Through their high speed bus architecture and meticulous engineering, they have managed to achieve key wins on the worldwide Top 500 supercomputer list year after year., with one third of the Top 15, all based on Cray systems featuring AMD Technology:
- #2 Oak Ridge National Laboratory
- #6 National Institute for Computational Sciences/University of Tennessee
- #11 NERSC/LBNL
- #12 Oak Ridge National Laboratory
- #13 NNSA/Sandia National Laboratories
Of course, the folks at Cray will tell you (and they’d be right) that the most important aspect of these systems – and all the others they have deployed through the years around the globe – is the real-world work that’s achieved when they’re in action.
This week Cray announced two major pieces of news. First, the #2 supercomputer in the world, the “Jaguar” system at ORNL will be upgraded to a 2 Petaflop system by replacing the existing quad-core processors with AMD’s latest six-core processor. A total of around 225,000 processor cores if you are doing the math. In addition, NERSC, the holder of the current #11 system, will also be adding a new Cray XT5 system with 1 Petaflop of performance.
Congratulations to the team at Cray, their execution in the world of supercomputing is second to none.
When I look back on those Compaq customers that were telling me that the shiny new racks of x86 servers were really supercomputers, I have to admit that they were 100% right. They just didn’t know how visionary they were back then.
John Fruehe is the Director of Business Development for Server/Workstation products at AMD. His postings are his own opinions and may not represent AMD’s positions, strategies or opinions. Links to third party sites are provided for convenience and unless explicitly stated, AMD is not responsible for the contents of such linked sites and no endorsement is implied.
Playing 20 Questions (Part 1)
Posted by John Fruehe in 9:22 am
We’ve all played the game, is it bigger than a breadbox? Is it an animal, vegetable or mineral? I decided to try an ambitious exercise, soliciting input directly from folks in IT who have questions about our products and where they are headed.
I received more than 20 in this first round and for the purpose of this post, I’ll focus on five questions related to our upcoming server platforms. Look for more posts that address questions around virtualization/cloud computing and future technologies in the coming days and weeks. Because these questions are around future platforms, some data won’t be available until launch.
Is Socket C32 being designed to be backwards compatible with the existing Socket F?
No. Socket F is a DDR2 design and C32 is DDR3. Having interchangeable processors and memories would mean a massive test matrix that OEMs might find difficult to support. Eventually you’ll have to switch over to the new design. Based on the fact that we expect Socket F to end up with ~5 years of life in it from 2006 to 2011, we feel it has served the market well and we don’t want to be focusing the new generation of processor into a 4 year old platform.
Are you going to allow a C32 socket to accept 8-core or 12-core CPU, or a G34 socket to accept 4-core or 6-core CPU?
We do not have plans to support this. The C32 and G34 sockets are different form factors with different sizes and pin counts and are targeting workloads with different needs in terms of computational capabilities. The C32 and G34 platforms address different form factors and customer workloads. Our goal is to introduce product features (including core counts) that are best aligned to those customer needs.
Does AMD plan to scale into the >100 thread 8P market with G34 systems?
The G34 systems planned for 2010 are expected to offer scalability to 4 sockets each with 12 cores per socket; that represents a total of 48 cores for a 4P platform. The challenge in moving beyond that level for many mainstream business applications can be that the scalability of the software becomes a bigger challenge than the scalability of the hardware. (Specialized HPC-style applications may be another story altogether.) The market for single systems with 96 cores appears to be very limited at the moment, and new technologies like HPC, cloud and developments such as the HyperTransport HNC specification all represent ways of getting greater scalability in a scale out mode vs. scaling the systems up.
Will AMD be the single chipset source for server main boards in the long term?
AMD plans to release the SR5690 chipset later this year. That will be utilized with existing Socket F processors as well as the future “Maranello” and “San Marino” platforms. We can’t speak to the plans of other companies, but we welcome any additional chipset products from other vendors; competition always breeds the best innovation.
AMD has placed a great deal of emphasis on the fact that all of the new Six-Core AMD OpteronTM processors (formerly codenamed “Istanbul”) fit within the same TDP/ACP as the previous Quad-Core AMD OpteronTM processors (formerly codenamed “Shanghai”). Can we expect this trend to continue with “Magny Cours” and “Interlagos” despite the increasing core count?
Because we are moving to a new platform (codenamed “Maranello”), there is not a need to have exactly the same TDP/ACP as past processors. We do recognize that customers are very comfortable with the power/thermal bands that we have established and we plan to continue to use power bands that are very similar to what we use today. In general, we plan to continue the approach of allowing a single platform to be able to support more than one generation of processors (though not mixed in the same system of course), sharing a common power/thermal envelope. Just as the Socket F (1207) allowed us to support Rev F dual -core, “Barcelona,” “Shanghai” and “Istanbul,” we believe that “Maranello” will support both the “Magny Cours” processors as well as the “Interlagos” processors. We expect the “San Marino” platform to support the “Lisbon” processor as well as its follow-on, the “Valencia” processor.
John Fruehe is the Director of Business Development for Server/Workstation products at AMD. His postings are his own opinions and may not represent AMD’s positions, strategies or opinions. Links to third party sites are provided for convenience and unless explicitly stated, AMD is not responsible for the contents of such linked sites and no endorsement is implied.